Friday, October 31, 2008
Cal Porter's Then And Now
Now and then we come across something that we feel compelled to tell others, and this is one such example !
Absolutely, Positively "Required Reading" for the County Recurrent ! An absolutely spectacular gem of a web blog by retired recurrent, Cal Porter
Cal Porter's Then And Now
hosted by www.LocalBeachHotels.com, where you will find Cal's Blog linked in the left hand menu bar on the homepage. Additional webpages include the following:
http://www.localbeachhotels.com/default.php?page=blog_view&var1=View&var2=1
http://www.localbeachhotels.com/default.php?page=blog_view&var1=ViewCat&var2=1&var3=13
*** This is one and the same Cal Porter, Malibu's First Lifeguard at the Point; Our very own LACo Beach Lifeguard Stud (Recurrent, Retired) Cal Porter..... the humble ocean warrior who we had NO IDEA had a blog of his own. So Cal: You've been outed quite by accident by "County Recurrent" and we are all so very glad that you are putting pen to paper, as it were, about what the 'bu was really like 'back in the day!' ***
fyi; contact:
Cal Porter: calporter@charter.net
Until next time,
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
Keeping the County Recurrent "in the loop" !
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Absolutely, Positively "Required Reading" for the County Recurrent ! An absolutely spectacular gem of a web blog by retired recurrent, Cal Porter
Cal Porter's Then And Now
hosted by www.LocalBeachHotels.com, where you will find Cal's Blog linked in the left hand menu bar on the homepage. Additional webpages include the following:
http://www.localbeachhotels.com/default.php?page=blog_view&var1=View&var2=1
http://www.localbeachhotels.com/default.php?page=blog_view&var1=ViewCat&var2=1&var3=13
*** This is one and the same Cal Porter, Malibu's First Lifeguard at the Point; Our very own LACo Beach Lifeguard Stud (Recurrent, Retired) Cal Porter..... the humble ocean warrior who we had NO IDEA had a blog of his own. So Cal: You've been outed quite by accident by "County Recurrent" and we are all so very glad that you are putting pen to paper, as it were, about what the 'bu was really like 'back in the day!' ***
fyi; contact:
Cal Porter: calporter@charter.net
Until next time,
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
Keeping the County Recurrent "in the loop" !
DISCLAIMER: County Recurrent is not affiliated with nor sponsored by LACOLA or LACoFD.
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Tuesday, October 28, 2008
Bill Powers: Writer-Surfer-Lifeguard
Dateline: Oct. 28, 2008
Just received a couple of short articles by noneother than Col. Bill Powers, Retired LACo OLS of thirty plus years, now ensconced in his mountain home in Mammoth Lakes, Calif.
"Surf Lines" by Bill Powers
This tip is just one of several things to make getting boats off the beach and through the surf line safely. When boats are in the surf line, even
small waves can wash line (rope) off the boats and into the water. All it takes is about 2 inches of water with small wave action to move the lines
in large arcs down current from the boat. The danger here is getting these lines wrapped around your feet, with cold water you may not notice your foot or feet are wrapped with line. The tip here is keep checking your feet for line throughout the operation, especially as the lifeguard with the radio tells the Baywatch to pull her off the beach.
Aloha, Bill
(Copyright 2008 Bill Powers. All Rights Reserved. Used here with permission).
"The Off Shores", by Bill Powers
These winds normally blow November through February however they can happen almost any time of year. To most folks in Malibu, this is known as the fire season and rightly so. Unless you are new in this area you have seen what a fire storm looks like when it rages down through the canyons on it's way to the beach. These winds give us hot weather in the middle of winter, sometimes over 80 degrees. This wind also creates other conditions, after two days of these winds it can blow average surf flat. There are always exceptions to this. It will also clear the water and give the local divers the best water visibility of the year. It normally blows the top water out, which causes an upwelling effect dropping the water temperature. One year I saw the water temperature drop 11 degrees overnight. I would like to highlight some of the dangers that come with this condition when you look at the ocean during these winds it can look very inviting. Usually the ocean is smooth or slightly rippled close to shore, this is because homes and land formations block the wind. However 200 or 300 YARDS off shore the wind can be two or three times as strong. It can be very difficult to sail or paddle in it. It can fluctuate direction and then another. If you are wind surfing and get knocked down a few times, all the while getting pushed out further outside. There are two things that are happening, you can be getting tired and you are being pushed into areas of stronger wind. If it is late in the day and losing daylight, things can get serious very quickly. If you are in a kayak, they tend to want to point down wind. Due to sitting aft of the center of the craft, there is more kayak in front of you than behind. If you see someone paddling backwards toward the beach in these winds, they are most likely having trouble. If you get blown away from shore, stay with anything that floats, you will last longer on the outside and you will be easier to spot. If you see someone you think might be in trouble, call 911 and ask for the Lifeguards. Be specific, you do not want the police or a fire engine (they will not get in the water). The people of Malibu have the privilege of having the finest lifeguard service in the world. Do not hesitate to use them. In choosing, remember it's better to be on the beach wishing you were in the water than in the water wishing you were on the beach.
Aloha,
Bill Powers
L.A. County Lifeguard 30 years
(Copyright 2008 Bill Powers. All Rights Reserved. Used here with permission. Do not reproduce without prior permission). Transcription Services provided pro bono by "CountyRecurrent" News.
Photo below by Will Maguire. August 2005. Copyright 2005 Will Maguire. All Rights Reserved. Used here with permission. Do not reproduce without prior permission.
Photo subject: Bill Powers, LACo OLS, Ret. (aka, Shotgun Bill)
Bill's next article will be entitled:
Bill Powers: Hunting Tips to Shoot Skeet, Rabbit and Bear !
Just received a couple of short articles by noneother than Col. Bill Powers, Retired LACo OLS of thirty plus years, now ensconced in his mountain home in Mammoth Lakes, Calif.
"Surf Lines" by Bill Powers
This tip is just one of several things to make getting boats off the beach and through the surf line safely. When boats are in the surf line, even
small waves can wash line (rope) off the boats and into the water. All it takes is about 2 inches of water with small wave action to move the lines
in large arcs down current from the boat. The danger here is getting these lines wrapped around your feet, with cold water you may not notice your foot or feet are wrapped with line. The tip here is keep checking your feet for line throughout the operation, especially as the lifeguard with the radio tells the Baywatch to pull her off the beach.
Aloha, Bill
(Copyright 2008 Bill Powers. All Rights Reserved. Used here with permission).
"The Off Shores", by Bill Powers
These winds normally blow November through February however they can happen almost any time of year. To most folks in Malibu, this is known as the fire season and rightly so. Unless you are new in this area you have seen what a fire storm looks like when it rages down through the canyons on it's way to the beach. These winds give us hot weather in the middle of winter, sometimes over 80 degrees. This wind also creates other conditions, after two days of these winds it can blow average surf flat. There are always exceptions to this. It will also clear the water and give the local divers the best water visibility of the year. It normally blows the top water out, which causes an upwelling effect dropping the water temperature. One year I saw the water temperature drop 11 degrees overnight. I would like to highlight some of the dangers that come with this condition when you look at the ocean during these winds it can look very inviting. Usually the ocean is smooth or slightly rippled close to shore, this is because homes and land formations block the wind. However 200 or 300 YARDS off shore the wind can be two or three times as strong. It can be very difficult to sail or paddle in it. It can fluctuate direction and then another. If you are wind surfing and get knocked down a few times, all the while getting pushed out further outside. There are two things that are happening, you can be getting tired and you are being pushed into areas of stronger wind. If it is late in the day and losing daylight, things can get serious very quickly. If you are in a kayak, they tend to want to point down wind. Due to sitting aft of the center of the craft, there is more kayak in front of you than behind. If you see someone paddling backwards toward the beach in these winds, they are most likely having trouble. If you get blown away from shore, stay with anything that floats, you will last longer on the outside and you will be easier to spot. If you see someone you think might be in trouble, call 911 and ask for the Lifeguards. Be specific, you do not want the police or a fire engine (they will not get in the water). The people of Malibu have the privilege of having the finest lifeguard service in the world. Do not hesitate to use them. In choosing, remember it's better to be on the beach wishing you were in the water than in the water wishing you were on the beach.
Aloha,
Bill Powers
L.A. County Lifeguard 30 years
(Copyright 2008 Bill Powers. All Rights Reserved. Used here with permission. Do not reproduce without prior permission). Transcription Services provided pro bono by "CountyRecurrent" News.
Photo below by Will Maguire. August 2005. Copyright 2005 Will Maguire. All Rights Reserved. Used here with permission. Do not reproduce without prior permission.
Photo subject: Bill Powers, LACo OLS, Ret. (aka, Shotgun Bill)
Bill's next article will be entitled:
Bill Powers: Hunting Tips to Shoot Skeet, Rabbit and Bear !
Monday, October 27, 2008
Ave 23 Ghost Fins: Trick or Treat ? !
Dateline: Monday, Oct. 27, 2008
County Recurrent in its previous posting, dated 10.25.08, began with a photo featuring a certain quiver of fins ready for use by the seasoned recurrent at Ave 23, in Venice.
The undersigned, in a mystery worthy of a ghost sighting, then discovered one of these fins missing in action and replaced by a matching orange fin to the Redley previously discussed on 10.25.08.
The readership is asked if they know where the missing, albeit, previously mismatched single red/black "Da Fin" fin went.
Perhaps someone saw the previous blog post and said, "Hey, there is so and so's missing Red Da Fin !
Perhaps it was replaced by Big Brother. Decide for yourself, as County Recurrent hereinafter shows photos of said aforementioned quiver of fins on the two referenced dates, 10.19 and 10.26.08 !
Below, the Ave 23 Quiver of Fins, on Sunday, Oct. 19, 2008
(note: left to right, Red/Black (Da Fin), Orange/Black (Redley), and Blue/Black (VOIT Duck Foot)
And above, the altered quiver of fins at Ave 23, just 7 days later. Note: the pair of matching orange/black Redley fins now hanging with the same single blue/black Duck Foot.
I don't quite know if there is a logical explanation for the appearance of the matching orange Redley fin or not, but I like to think that its our "left us too soon" brother in arms, Robert Roche (LACo OL), whose ashes were spread off Ave 23 some years ago, and it's Robert who is now wearing the missing Red Da Fin with its matching fin and is out there off Ave 23 doing laps from the Venice Pier to the Breakwater and back.
"County Recurrent"...... bringing you all the news there is to bring, including trivia of even the most inconsequential.
Until next time,
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
Keeping the County Recurrent "in the loop" !
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County Recurrent in its previous posting, dated 10.25.08, began with a photo featuring a certain quiver of fins ready for use by the seasoned recurrent at Ave 23, in Venice.
The undersigned, in a mystery worthy of a ghost sighting, then discovered one of these fins missing in action and replaced by a matching orange fin to the Redley previously discussed on 10.25.08.
The readership is asked if they know where the missing, albeit, previously mismatched single red/black "Da Fin" fin went.
Perhaps someone saw the previous blog post and said, "Hey, there is so and so's missing Red Da Fin !
Perhaps it was replaced by Big Brother. Decide for yourself, as County Recurrent hereinafter shows photos of said aforementioned quiver of fins on the two referenced dates, 10.19 and 10.26.08 !
Below, the Ave 23 Quiver of Fins, on Sunday, Oct. 19, 2008
(note: left to right, Red/Black (Da Fin), Orange/Black (Redley), and Blue/Black (VOIT Duck Foot)
And above, the altered quiver of fins at Ave 23, just 7 days later. Note: the pair of matching orange/black Redley fins now hanging with the same single blue/black Duck Foot.
I don't quite know if there is a logical explanation for the appearance of the matching orange Redley fin or not, but I like to think that its our "left us too soon" brother in arms, Robert Roche (LACo OL), whose ashes were spread off Ave 23 some years ago, and it's Robert who is now wearing the missing Red Da Fin with its matching fin and is out there off Ave 23 doing laps from the Venice Pier to the Breakwater and back.
"County Recurrent"...... bringing you all the news there is to bring, including trivia of even the most inconsequential.
Until next time,
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
Keeping the County Recurrent "in the loop" !
DISCLAIMER: County Recurrent is not affiliated with nor sponsored by any governmental agency.
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Saturday, October 25, 2008
Just Another Day At The Beach
"COUNTY RECURRENT" Presents: A Day At The Beach
The Standard Quiver of Rescue Fins..... ready for the next blitz at the Avenues. And notice how the Orange Redley Fin (center) picks up and compliments the orange in the County Recurrent homepage graphics...
Name the brand name of these fins on the rail, in set up mode, adjacent to rescue can at Ave-23.
This yacht, or I should say, SHIP, was absolutely GINORMOUS !!! A colleague stationed elsewhere conjectured it belonged to a south of the border drug lord that has recently been parking his 100 foot plus vessel in MDR at the fuel dock. I thought it might be a certain Silicon Valley software billionaire who has bought up a boatload of Malibu beachfront in past several years. Name that Billionaire and his company for a free cup of coffee at CSHQ.
Sunset in Venice..... who knew !
End of shift, rescue hybrid vehicles being parked for the night. Is it just me or do these vehicles look absolutely outstanding ?!
Nighttime in the hood.
The Standard Quiver of Rescue Fins..... ready for the next blitz at the Avenues. And notice how the Orange Redley Fin (center) picks up and compliments the orange in the County Recurrent homepage graphics...
Name the brand name of these fins on the rail, in set up mode, adjacent to rescue can at Ave-23.
This yacht, or I should say, SHIP, was absolutely GINORMOUS !!! A colleague stationed elsewhere conjectured it belonged to a south of the border drug lord that has recently been parking his 100 foot plus vessel in MDR at the fuel dock. I thought it might be a certain Silicon Valley software billionaire who has bought up a boatload of Malibu beachfront in past several years. Name that Billionaire and his company for a free cup of coffee at CSHQ.
Sunset in Venice..... who knew !
End of shift, rescue hybrid vehicles being parked for the night. Is it just me or do these vehicles look absolutely outstanding ?!
Nighttime in the hood.
Monday, October 20, 2008
Anatomy of a Rip Current; Part I: Inshore Holes Exposed !
*** County Recurrent "Special Bulletin": Heads up ! Echo Boomer List of successful County Recurrent candidates who kicked ass in the swim test and qualified for the next round are now up to ELEVEN (11) !!! Just in: "Julie Wynn, 19, granddaughter of retired permanent and recurrent lifeguard, Cal Porter, 85." Check it out on our updated County Recurrent Blog Post of Oct. 1, 2008. ***
ANATOMY OF A RIP CURRENT
Part I: Inshore Holes Exposed !
Here for the first time, inshore holes will be exposed for the bottom feeding sandy depressions that they are. Sometimes referred to as 'ankle poppers', back crackers', or 'knee crushers', these inshore holes are responsible for some of the nastiest, dirtiest, and swiftest rip currents known to mankind.
Only during a zero or minus tide can these inshore holes truly be exposed for what they really are. Yet, ironically, at such a low tides these inshore holes look peculiarly tame and benign. Add some surf and a six foot receding tide, however, and these otherwise benign looking little swales in the sand become the breeding ground for the disgorgement and repatriation of ocean water seeking a path back out to sea. We are talking TONS, people, TONS of WATER, that has been projectile vomited :-) onshore by successive sets of surf that is now seeking to get back out to sea and it will seek out the deepest, darkest, lowest point from which to do so. Enter the "Inshore Hole", the veritable late night carousing, late for work, ready for a barfight recurrent lifeguard who has no business watching the water. You hear what I'm saying ! These are not the inshore holes you invite home to meet mom and dad. Benign at zero tide, and Mr. Hyde at high tide. Sound like an inshore hole you too have encountered ?!...
I've met some pretty nasty inshore holes of the Central Section variety. Two steps off the beach and WHAM !..... there goes your right knee and hip down into a freaking two foot hole ! Nice ! Or how about while dolphining out through the surf on a rescue and as you dive off the bottom for the third or the fourth time you find your left and right foot at different elevations of an inshore hole so that when you push off with your legs you get an evil chiropractic adjustment which sends your spine and vertebrae moving in different directions ! Great, just great !
Or the infamous inshore holes on Santa Monica South each spring. Come Memorial Day Weekend its like every other beach patron gets swallowed up by inshore holes ranging from one foot to six feet deep. Yeah, SIX FEET DEEP ! Just ask Bill Asturius, Mark Newman and Jim Oppliger who tried to fetch a 300 plus pound victim out of such a hole adjacent to SMS #26 "back in the day", e.g., circa 1978. I would have liked to have helped them out but Roy Salter (at #24) and me (at #25) were busy with our own rips and rescues. That particular inshore hole, however, was AT LEAST six feet deep and it took all three of those studs to get that gal out of there.
So, you see, and as you know yourself, the inshore hole is the precursor to the rip current. The inshore hole is, in effect, the gateway drug, I mean, a preeminent causal factor to the rip current. The photos to follow illustrate this fact.
Photo below: An otherwise benign play pond for an infant..... AT ZERO TIDE, maybe !
Photo above: A Classic "Ankle Popper" at medium or high tide; here, at zero tide just a tiny shimmering pool of water in the hard sand...
Photo above: Don't let these holes fool you because they are knee breakers for sure at medium tide...
Photo above: Here we have it ! Irrefutable evidence of the proverbial bottom, water feeding inshore hole leading the ocean water back out to sea. Just add a receding four to six foot tide with some surf and this gentle stream becomes a freaking funnel of swirling water hoovering out to sea !
Photo above: "Just Follow The Scum"... if it works for the police, hey, why not use it for catching scum sucking, inshore hole breeding rip currents !
That concludes today's lesson of Part I: Inshore Holes Exposed.
Until Next Time,
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
Keeping the County Recurrent "in the loop" !
DISCLAIMER: County Recurrent is not affiliated with nor sponsored by LACoFD or LACOLA.
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ANATOMY OF A RIP CURRENT
Part I: Inshore Holes Exposed !
Here for the first time, inshore holes will be exposed for the bottom feeding sandy depressions that they are. Sometimes referred to as 'ankle poppers', back crackers', or 'knee crushers', these inshore holes are responsible for some of the nastiest, dirtiest, and swiftest rip currents known to mankind.
Only during a zero or minus tide can these inshore holes truly be exposed for what they really are. Yet, ironically, at such a low tides these inshore holes look peculiarly tame and benign. Add some surf and a six foot receding tide, however, and these otherwise benign looking little swales in the sand become the breeding ground for the disgorgement and repatriation of ocean water seeking a path back out to sea. We are talking TONS, people, TONS of WATER, that has been projectile vomited :-) onshore by successive sets of surf that is now seeking to get back out to sea and it will seek out the deepest, darkest, lowest point from which to do so. Enter the "Inshore Hole", the veritable late night carousing, late for work, ready for a barfight recurrent lifeguard who has no business watching the water. You hear what I'm saying ! These are not the inshore holes you invite home to meet mom and dad. Benign at zero tide, and Mr. Hyde at high tide. Sound like an inshore hole you too have encountered ?!...
I've met some pretty nasty inshore holes of the Central Section variety. Two steps off the beach and WHAM !..... there goes your right knee and hip down into a freaking two foot hole ! Nice ! Or how about while dolphining out through the surf on a rescue and as you dive off the bottom for the third or the fourth time you find your left and right foot at different elevations of an inshore hole so that when you push off with your legs you get an evil chiropractic adjustment which sends your spine and vertebrae moving in different directions ! Great, just great !
Or the infamous inshore holes on Santa Monica South each spring. Come Memorial Day Weekend its like every other beach patron gets swallowed up by inshore holes ranging from one foot to six feet deep. Yeah, SIX FEET DEEP ! Just ask Bill Asturius, Mark Newman and Jim Oppliger who tried to fetch a 300 plus pound victim out of such a hole adjacent to SMS #26 "back in the day", e.g., circa 1978. I would have liked to have helped them out but Roy Salter (at #24) and me (at #25) were busy with our own rips and rescues. That particular inshore hole, however, was AT LEAST six feet deep and it took all three of those studs to get that gal out of there.
So, you see, and as you know yourself, the inshore hole is the precursor to the rip current. The inshore hole is, in effect, the gateway drug, I mean, a preeminent causal factor to the rip current. The photos to follow illustrate this fact.
Photo below: An otherwise benign play pond for an infant..... AT ZERO TIDE, maybe !
Photo above: A Classic "Ankle Popper" at medium or high tide; here, at zero tide just a tiny shimmering pool of water in the hard sand...
Photo above: Don't let these holes fool you because they are knee breakers for sure at medium tide...
Photo above: Here we have it ! Irrefutable evidence of the proverbial bottom, water feeding inshore hole leading the ocean water back out to sea. Just add a receding four to six foot tide with some surf and this gentle stream becomes a freaking funnel of swirling water hoovering out to sea !
Photo above: "Just Follow The Scum"... if it works for the police, hey, why not use it for catching scum sucking, inshore hole breeding rip currents !
That concludes today's lesson of Part I: Inshore Holes Exposed.
Until Next Time,
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
Keeping the County Recurrent "in the loop" !
DISCLAIMER: County Recurrent is not affiliated with nor sponsored by LACoFD or LACOLA.
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Sunday, October 19, 2008
Rescue Swimmers
The Next Generation is ripped and ready to rescue candidates not up to the challenge of the annual rookie swim this past Sept. '08.
Left to right, can you name these lifeguards ?
"County Recurrent" wants to know !
Hooah !
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
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Left to right, can you name these lifeguards ?
"County Recurrent" wants to know !
Hooah !
Will Maguire,
on behalf of COUNTY RECURRENT News
http://CountyRecurrent.blogspot.com
email: will.maguire@verizon.net
DISCLAIMER: County Recurrent is not affiliated with nor sponsored by LACoFD, LACOLA or SNL.
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